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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://www.woodpigeon-songbook.com/2010/01/in-praise-of-calgary-mann-harden-rises/comment-page-1/#comment-221</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 08:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leaders, hey? I can&#039;t tell you how often a friend and I have sat ourselves down on a street corner with an ice cream and counted just how many SUVs have gone by with a solitary passenger in them (we once made it to 100, before a car with two people came past). A large number of my friends around the world also expressed shock when I announced that we finally got curb-side recycling here in Calgary just this past year.

As for you changing my mind, you won&#039;t. I&#039;m surprised that anyone classifying themselves as an &quot;environmental consultant&quot; would ever type a sentence as ridiculous as &quot;Not to diminish the importance of wetlands and other pre-existing ecosystems in the area, but there is not a whole lot of &#039;beauty&#039; up there.&quot; Seriously? Let me get this straight: You&#039;re suggesting we forget about these wetlands and ecosystems in the area because you don&#039;t think it&#039;s beautiful? Shame on you, Ira. All natural areas play a precious role in the ecosystem – to me, there&#039;s nothing more gorgeous than large expanses of Earth that have remained un-touched by man for millions of years. They&#039;re few and far between. How dare we enter them, pillage the land, and then retreat back to the cities?

I haven&#039;t been to the area that&#039;s presently being damaged, but I have done my own research into what parts of it presently look like (check the aerial shots shown in the film HOME, which you can watch in its entirety here: http://www.youtube.com/user/homeproject – they actually made me feel ill to my stomach). While I did indeed grow up in a city, my connection with nature is one that I&#039;ve spent a lifetime developing. You seem to suggest that I&#039;m viewing things through a &quot;disconnect from the realities of our relationship with nature,&quot; but I never once forget that relationship is one in which we each have and make choices within. Alberta&#039;s making a choice to destroy areas that shouldn&#039;t be destroyed, and despite your suggestions otherwise, I CHOOSE not to stay silent on that, and I CHOOSE to make as small an impact as I can.

I do not own a car, nor do I want one. Calgary&#039;s a big city, but I can cycle across it in a couple of hours if I need to. I do not buy food products whose packaging I cannot recycle. It&#039;s not out of Canadian nationalism that I focus first on purchasing things made in my home country either -- it&#039;s about transport of those items, and even some further desire to be closer connected to the land where I live. I keep a garden in my backyard, as well as a large compost. I look forward to installing solar panels on my home by this summer. Woodpigeon has toured extensively through Europe without a vehicle, instead traveling by rail (and in the process, I&#039;ve been interviewed by more than one publication on sustainable touring – in full realization that we do indeed FLY over the ocean to make it happen, but take other steps to reduce our impact once we&#039;ve arrived). 

Yes, &quot;humans are going to make an impact on this earth simply by our very existance [sic],&quot; Ira, but we can help determine what that impact is by the choices we make.

As for wading the Muskeg, I&#039;d love to ... before &quot;environmental consultants&quot; like yourself determine it&#039;s A-OK for them to vanish from the face of the Earth. Personally, I prefer to embrace and protect what we have now vs. imagining some sort of guilt-free future lived &quot;into the stars.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leaders, hey? I can&#8217;t tell you how often a friend and I have sat ourselves down on a street corner with an ice cream and counted just how many SUVs have gone by with a solitary passenger in them (we once made it to 100, before a car with two people came past). A large number of my friends around the world also expressed shock when I announced that we finally got curb-side recycling here in Calgary just this past year.</p>
<p>As for you changing my mind, you won&#8217;t. I&#8217;m surprised that anyone classifying themselves as an &#8220;environmental consultant&#8221; would ever type a sentence as ridiculous as &#8220;Not to diminish the importance of wetlands and other pre-existing ecosystems in the area, but there is not a whole lot of &#8216;beauty&#8217; up there.&#8221; Seriously? Let me get this straight: You&#8217;re suggesting we forget about these wetlands and ecosystems in the area because you don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s beautiful? Shame on you, Ira. All natural areas play a precious role in the ecosystem – to me, there&#8217;s nothing more gorgeous than large expanses of Earth that have remained un-touched by man for millions of years. They&#8217;re few and far between. How dare we enter them, pillage the land, and then retreat back to the cities?</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t been to the area that&#8217;s presently being damaged, but I have done my own research into what parts of it presently look like (check the aerial shots shown in the film HOME, which you can watch in its entirety here: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/homeproject" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/homeproject</a> – they actually made me feel ill to my stomach). While I did indeed grow up in a city, my connection with nature is one that I&#8217;ve spent a lifetime developing. You seem to suggest that I&#8217;m viewing things through a &#8220;disconnect from the realities of our relationship with nature,&#8221; but I never once forget that relationship is one in which we each have and make choices within. Alberta&#8217;s making a choice to destroy areas that shouldn&#8217;t be destroyed, and despite your suggestions otherwise, I CHOOSE not to stay silent on that, and I CHOOSE to make as small an impact as I can.</p>
<p>I do not own a car, nor do I want one. Calgary&#8217;s a big city, but I can cycle across it in a couple of hours if I need to. I do not buy food products whose packaging I cannot recycle. It&#8217;s not out of Canadian nationalism that I focus first on purchasing things made in my home country either&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;it&#8217;s about transport of those items, and even some further desire to be closer connected to the land where I live. I keep a garden in my backyard, as well as a large compost. I look forward to installing solar panels on my home by this summer. Woodpigeon has toured extensively through Europe without a vehicle, instead traveling by rail (and in the process, I&#8217;ve been interviewed by more than one publication on sustainable touring – in full realization that we do indeed FLY over the ocean to make it happen, but take other steps to reduce our impact once we&#8217;ve arrived). </p>
<p>Yes, &#8220;humans are going to make an impact on this earth simply by our very existance [sic],&#8221; Ira, but we can help determine what that impact is by the choices we make.</p>
<p>As for wading the Muskeg, I&#8217;d love to &#8230; before &#8220;environmental consultants&#8221; like yourself determine it&#8217;s A-OK for them to vanish from the face of the Earth. Personally, I prefer to embrace and protect what we have now vs. imagining some sort of guilt-free future lived &#8220;into the&nbsp;stars.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ira</title>
		<link>http://www.woodpigeon-songbook.com/2010/01/in-praise-of-calgary-mann-harden-rises/comment-page-1/#comment-217</link>
		<dc:creator>Ira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 16:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having worked as an environmental consultant for years, I know where we (as Albertans) stand in the field of environmental responsibility and action.  We are leaders, and will continue to be into the future.  Also, I know there is nothing I can say to change your mind, so we will just have to wait-and-see.  I&#039;m curious, though:  Have you ever actually been to the area you describe?  Not to diminish the importance of wetlands and other pre-existing ecosystems in the area, but there is not a whole lot of &quot;beauty&quot; up there.  We, as humans are going to make an impact on this earth simply by our very existance.  The size can certainly be better kept to a minimum, but our impact will be felt long after we disappear (hopefully, into the stars). Having grown-up in a city, it&#039;s easy to disconnect from the realities of our relationship with nature.  Maybe you should go up and wade through the muskeg this summer and get a better sense of the land...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having worked as an environmental consultant for years, I know where we (as Albertans) stand in the field of environmental responsibility and action.  We are leaders, and will continue to be into the future.  Also, I know there is nothing I can say to change your mind, so we will just have to wait-and-see.  I&#8217;m curious, though:  Have you ever actually been to the area you describe?  Not to diminish the importance of wetlands and other pre-existing ecosystems in the area, but there is not a whole lot of &#8220;beauty&#8221; up there.  We, as humans are going to make an impact on this earth simply by our very existance.  The size can certainly be better kept to a minimum, but our impact will be felt long after we disappear (hopefully, into the stars). Having grown-up in a city, it&#8217;s easy to disconnect from the realities of our relationship with nature.  Maybe you should go up and wade through the muskeg this summer and get a better sense of the&nbsp;land&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 03:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;d be wrong about that -- we&#039;re all but one of us born and raised Calgarians. The positive kickbacks from a prosperous oil industry aside (such as a supposedly &quot;better&quot; education offered at the province&#039;s Universities -- never mind the U of C&#039;s recent announcement of increasing tuition up to 47% this year), there&#039;s no reason whatsoever that what&#039;s happening to the once-gorgeous expanses of the Northern tar sands is happening. For decades, during this history that you&#039;re referring to, the supplies in the tar sands were considered too difficult to extract, an insane expense of energy, natural resources, and money. But, what&#039;s happening now? One of the world&#039;s finest natural areas is being torn to shreds. I fail to see how that puts us anywhere on the &quot;leading edge&quot; of positive environment change linked to the oil industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;d be wrong about that&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;we&#8217;re all but one of us born and raised Calgarians. The positive kickbacks from a prosperous oil industry aside (such as a supposedly &#8220;better&#8221; education offered at the province&#8217;s Universities&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;never mind the U of C&#8217;s recent announcement of increasing tuition up to 47% this year), there&#8217;s no reason whatsoever that what&#8217;s happening to the once-gorgeous expanses of the Northern tar sands is happening. For decades, during this history that you&#8217;re referring to, the supplies in the tar sands were considered too difficult to extract, an insane expense of energy, natural resources, and money. But, what&#8217;s happening now? One of the world&#8217;s finest natural areas is being torn to shreds. I fail to see how that puts us anywhere on the &#8220;leading edge&#8221; of positive environment change linked to the oil&nbsp;industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Ira</title>
		<link>http://www.woodpigeon-songbook.com/2010/01/in-praise-of-calgary-mann-harden-rises/comment-page-1/#comment-213</link>
		<dc:creator>Ira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 02:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like it or not, being linked to oil isn&#039;t all bad. In fact, the money from oil is what will be the catalyst for positive change, and Calgary/Alberta is on the leading edge of that change, as we Albertans have often been in Canada&#039;s (and even the World&#039;s) history.  Check-out some of that history, and you might better understand Albertans (as you sound like you&#039;re not originally from here).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like it or not, being linked to oil isn&#8217;t all bad. In fact, the money from oil is what will be the catalyst for positive change, and Calgary/Alberta is on the leading edge of that change, as we Albertans have often been in Canada&#8217;s (and even the World&#8217;s) history.  Check-out some of that history, and you might better understand Albertans (as you sound like you&#8217;re not originally from&nbsp;here).</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://www.woodpigeon-songbook.com/2010/01/in-praise-of-calgary-mann-harden-rises/comment-page-1/#comment-204</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 01:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>part of us is kidding. and part of us isn&#039;t.

next time you play calgary, MANN HARDEN is opening!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>part of us is kidding. and part of us isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>next time you play calgary, MANN HARDEN is&nbsp;opening!</p>
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		<title>By: jann</title>
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		<dc:creator>jann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 00:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>part of me  hopes you&#039;re kidding......and part of me doesn&#039;t.....
hope you&#039;re all rocking the free world.

cheers,

jann</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>part of me  hopes you&#8217;re kidding&#8230;&#8230;and part of me doesn&#8217;t&#8230;..<br />
hope you&#8217;re all rocking the free world.</p>
<p>cheers,&nbsp;jann</p>
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